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Also consider the UK national health service. The British are extremely unhappy with the way it’s going because essentially politicians wrote a check they can’t cash, and it gets worse and worse every year—they have waiting lists, shortages of personnel and state-of-the-art equipment, dilapidated facilities, and other severe shottcomings. It’s a hot mess— it’s crushing them, and it will crush them even faster now that they’ve got an immigration influx of people who don’t pay into the system, but are, as most people are, insatiable users thereof; there’s no way out. Their safety valve is that, unbeknownst to most single payer fans in the US is that they have a robust private insurance market, and many, if not most, corporate employees have that private insurance, which allows them to see private providers outside of the NHS.

The strength of the United States is innovation. We have more innovation in this country than the rest of the world combined, and that’s largely because that’s where, for example, the Pharma industry earns all its money. Trump has pointed out that we basically subsidize all the single-payer types of systems that you list with the profit margins we give to Pharma and other suppliers.

So my government purchasing organization solution is a good first step toward bringing down costs for the taxpayers, at least without killing access or innovation--the goose that lays the golden egg. You could also make it politically acceptable to the industry and its lobbying problems by saying it’s either this or Medicare for all. What do you prefer? Because Medicare for all isn’t the end of the game for them, but a boy sure does take a lot of the fun out of it, and there could be a legitimate loss in innovation. That’s the saber the industry often rattles on capital ill and elsewhere, but there’s validity to it: capital goes where it can make profits, and if the profit margins go down in healthcare, they will go elsewhere, and there are plenty of other places to go. Talent will go elsewhere, too.

So that’s the stick you can use to beat the providers and suppliers into compliance, but the carrot is that you can give them liability shields. Professional and product liability at a ton of cost to the system, and this is another thing progressive never talks about because they’re bought and paid for by the trial bar, which makes an obscene amount of money by suing doctors and pharmaceutical companies in hospitals and nursing homes and everything else that moves. The industry has deep pockets, and trial lawyers pick up the scent and dive on it like vultures. That’s another thing that the European countries don’t have to worry about because their legal systems do not facilitate the personal injury industry that we’ve got here.

Now, probably, in my estimation, we will end up with Medicare for all anyway. Obviously, I have absolutely no platform to push my government purchasing organization idea, so barring some miracle, it will not gain traction, even though it is so obvious I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s ever thought of it. Certainly, if the DSA-captured Democrats regain power, Medicare for all could happen in my lifetime, which doesn’t have that much time left I would anticipate by the end of the century if not mid century, we will join the rest of the OECD in the single payer club, for better for worse, but I think it would be better for all the reasons I say above for us to at least go through a transitionary phase by consolidating the public sector purchasing power; best case, that that would be enough to fix it.

The other thing about the GPO is that it would tend to persuade people who are still in the private sector to get on the ACA, especially if there is a public option established at some point, which was a part of the ACA that got dropped. I can tell you personally that the industry heaved a sigh of relief when that happened, because the public option was just the tip of the wedge for Medicare for all.

I’m also critical of Republicans for being obsessed with repealing the Affordable Care Act; that was a nice sop for the people who wanted to go with single-payer Medicare for all. I’ve never understood why the Republicans were so opposed to it, and one of the saddest political spectacles I ever saw was the 2017 effort of Congress to repeal and replace the ACA. That was the day I realized that there is no way to do the one thing that would really cut costs in this country, which is to abolish third-party payment, whether it be public or private; that is never going to happen, so all we can do is make the best of the third-party payment system we've got by maximizing its efficiency and effectiveness. In fact, there’s still talk in GOP circles about repealing Nd replacing the ACA, which ironically was modeled on a GOP program in the People's Republic of Massachusetts called Romneycare, but they have no serious proposal. My government purchasing organization proposal would be a nice solution there for the Republicans. Unfortunately, I have no direct line to Donald Trump, so that’s probably not going to happen. That’s an idea that should get bipartisan support. The only reason the DSA in the Democrats wouldn’t want to do it is that they probably figure the worse, the better, as Lenin said. In that spirit, they would love to see a healthcare crisis metastasize until people are ready for the radical solution of a single payer, which is what they want.

What they don’t know is that there are no easy solutions or panaceas in healthcare. The problem is you have basically unlimited demand and limited supply. Nobody works for free, and to get the best and brightest in healthcare, you gotta pay. It’s not a fun job. There are Florence Nigfingales and Mother Teresa’s in the business, but not that many of them. We don’t run on nuns anymore.

There’s certainly a lot of rent-seeking behavior. PBM’s are probably the worst example. They don’t seem to add aany discernable value and yet they make a ton of money; you can tell that by their stock prices; insurance companies are demonized is the devils incarnate in this business—the reality is their margins aren’t nearly as high as people seem to think; their profits seem extraordinary, but that’s because of the scale, the sheer number of dollars that flow through them—as you say, they’re 20% of GDP. But really, most health insurance companies spend the majority of the dollars administering corporate programs; the corporations use the insurance companies as the fall guy for the policies that they tell the companies to implement

So, Donald Trump once famously said, " Healthcare is complicated,’ but I hope I’ve been able to point out some low-hanging fruit that maybe you can incorporate in the healthcare plank of your 25-point plan. As I said in another thread, it probably takes me the better part of a day to go through all your proposals, and I don’t know nearly as much about most of those as I do about healthcare, so I hope you find my two cents on that topic valuable.

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As someone with 45 years of experience in healthcare, I give your solution a B+.

I’ll cut the chain and give you the quickest fix, which is to establish a public sector monopsony.

About 60% of the total healthcare spend is directly or indirectly coming from the public sector. This includes spending at all levels: municipal, county, state, and federal. But even within the federal government, we don’t consolidate the purchasing into what I would call a government purchasing organization (GPO). Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, CHAMPUS, the Department of War, and all the others have their individual, balkanized purchasing and payment policies.

The logical thing to do is to consolidate all that spending at all levels into one government purchasing organization that negotiates with all providers and suppliers to get the best deal.

The reason we don’t do this is in all probability primarily, as you say, that providers and suppliers hate the idea because they’ll take a haircut on price, and as a result, they spend one great deal of lobbying money and energy on preventing it from happening; in addition, there’s the usual intra-agency distrust and disharmony, lack of cooperation, inefficiency, ineffectiveness, and outright slot; but at this point the alternative is slipping into Medicare for all, which providers and suppliers will hate even more.

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