I appreciate the peptalk. But when this Congress starts limiting him, then I will enjoy being an American again. There’s nothing wrong with not celebrating the Fourth of July as a way of using my right to protest. 250 years isn’t that special to me. I will celebrate it next year after we win the midterms.
Protest is a fundamental American right. I would never live in a country where this is not true. And, let's keep in mind, that regardless of the hyperbole we still very much live in a country where we can say whatever we want without consequence regarding the president.
But effective protests usually have a clear objective.
Boycotts seek leverage.
Demonstrations seek change.
Refusing to celebrate America's 250th birthday may be personally satisfying, but what is the intended outcome?
What specifically improves?
What would constitute success?
If the goal is to change the behavior of politicians, I'm struggling to see the connection.
Does it matter if that behavior is looked down on by the 47% of the country that identify as independent? What if that is specifically the type of behavior that actually does the opposite of accomplishing a change?
We need more people like you Ryan. I agree with just about everything you’ve been saying in all of your posts. It is a bipartisan problem. But I have to say, it makes it very hard to want to celebrate 250 years of whatever this has become. But, despite the vitriolic atmosphere he has nurtured, I’d still rather live here than anywhere else. Because I do believe that we can pull ourselves out of this as a country. So, I will try to let go of my disgust and celebrate the other 242 years.
Alternatively, we could all wait eight years and then celebrate the 250th in 2034!- Nah…it’s still the same country. We’ve just gotten lazy. We all just need to get off our asses and educate, vote, and fight like hell to reinstate the freedoms that so many fought so hard to get.
Thank you for the compliment. Try to bring up points that I just don't see mentioned in the news that are pretty clear when you walk outside....
Your reply is pretty much the entire point I wanted to make. I don't think we celebrate the last eight years. I think we celebrate the rest of it and we celebrate the progress and we damn sure don't let the other people laugh at us wondering what we're doing stay inside.
If our commitment to America only survives when our preferred party is in power, then we're not really celebrating the country, we're celebrating a temporary political victory. The country is bigger than any president, party, or era. If we want it to be better 250 years from now, we have to be willing to fight for it now, even when we're disappointed in it.
I don’t feel that I even have a party. But we still fly our flag outside our house. To me it represents our country’s ideals, whether we live up to them or not. The fact that we can keep trying is the point. Happy 250th Ryan!
Is the good news is that you are aware of this. Unfortunately, the people that believe they have a party by mistaken their loyalty for representation. Until there's accountability, I don't think we do have a party but I'm glad you're flying the flag because so many people died for it. We are lucky to be born here . Happy 250
With this president, Congress and so called judges, I’m not in the mood to celebrate, but I am happy that his 4th of July antics are falling apart. Look what this bozo did to our beautiful White House and reflecting pool. That’s what happens when you lie and try to alter historical landmarks all because he wanted the pool to be darker blue to match the flag. Can you imagine what he and the so called First Lady did to the interior? I hope the next president immediately changes what they did like all the gold adornments in the oval and every executive order.
OK, Tarzan. I forgot that we two sexes have our dissimilarities.
Alls I meant by 'cute' was that your piece was simple, short, and to the point.
No complicated arguments. Sure, I like complicated arguments, but it's nice to
hear a simple point all by itself once in a while.
As to the contents of that point, I agree with you. (Or maybe you persuaded me). We can be happy for the 250th, no matter who's in the White House.
(I first wrote 'casa blanca' instead of White House, but the 'machine' changed that to 'cast balance'. You really have to proofread comments these days...)
I appreciate the peptalk. But when this Congress starts limiting him, then I will enjoy being an American again. There’s nothing wrong with not celebrating the Fourth of July as a way of using my right to protest. 250 years isn’t that special to me. I will celebrate it next year after we win the midterms.
Protest is a fundamental American right. I would never live in a country where this is not true. And, let's keep in mind, that regardless of the hyperbole we still very much live in a country where we can say whatever we want without consequence regarding the president.
But effective protests usually have a clear objective.
Boycotts seek leverage.
Demonstrations seek change.
Refusing to celebrate America's 250th birthday may be personally satisfying, but what is the intended outcome?
What specifically improves?
What would constitute success?
If the goal is to change the behavior of politicians, I'm struggling to see the connection.
Does it matter if that behavior is looked down on by the 47% of the country that identify as independent? What if that is specifically the type of behavior that actually does the opposite of accomplishing a change?
We need more people like you Ryan. I agree with just about everything you’ve been saying in all of your posts. It is a bipartisan problem. But I have to say, it makes it very hard to want to celebrate 250 years of whatever this has become. But, despite the vitriolic atmosphere he has nurtured, I’d still rather live here than anywhere else. Because I do believe that we can pull ourselves out of this as a country. So, I will try to let go of my disgust and celebrate the other 242 years.
Alternatively, we could all wait eight years and then celebrate the 250th in 2034!- Nah…it’s still the same country. We’ve just gotten lazy. We all just need to get off our asses and educate, vote, and fight like hell to reinstate the freedoms that so many fought so hard to get.
Thank you for the compliment. Try to bring up points that I just don't see mentioned in the news that are pretty clear when you walk outside....
Your reply is pretty much the entire point I wanted to make. I don't think we celebrate the last eight years. I think we celebrate the rest of it and we celebrate the progress and we damn sure don't let the other people laugh at us wondering what we're doing stay inside.
If our commitment to America only survives when our preferred party is in power, then we're not really celebrating the country, we're celebrating a temporary political victory. The country is bigger than any president, party, or era. If we want it to be better 250 years from now, we have to be willing to fight for it now, even when we're disappointed in it.
I don’t feel that I even have a party. But we still fly our flag outside our house. To me it represents our country’s ideals, whether we live up to them or not. The fact that we can keep trying is the point. Happy 250th Ryan!
Is the good news is that you are aware of this. Unfortunately, the people that believe they have a party by mistaken their loyalty for representation. Until there's accountability, I don't think we do have a party but I'm glad you're flying the flag because so many people died for it. We are lucky to be born here . Happy 250
With this president, Congress and so called judges, I’m not in the mood to celebrate, but I am happy that his 4th of July antics are falling apart. Look what this bozo did to our beautiful White House and reflecting pool. That’s what happens when you lie and try to alter historical landmarks all because he wanted the pool to be darker blue to match the flag. Can you imagine what he and the so called First Lady did to the interior? I hope the next president immediately changes what they did like all the gold adornments in the oval and every executive order.
Cute.
Shhh..
Mary. You know I'm a big strong man, right!? Cute?
Me want strong and savage adjectives 💪 😂
OK, Tarzan. I forgot that we two sexes have our dissimilarities.
Alls I meant by 'cute' was that your piece was simple, short, and to the point.
No complicated arguments. Sure, I like complicated arguments, but it's nice to
hear a simple point all by itself once in a while.
As to the contents of that point, I agree with you. (Or maybe you persuaded me). We can be happy for the 250th, no matter who's in the White House.
(I first wrote 'casa blanca' instead of White House, but the 'machine' changed that to 'cast balance'. You really have to proofread comments these days...)